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		<title>Comment on The hypothesis in visualization by Daily Research &#187; Shared Items - December 1, 2008</title>
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		<title>Comment on The relationship between mapping and data visualization by booksmuggler &#187; Blog Archive &#187; mapping versus visualization</title>
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		<title>Comment on The hypothesis in visualization by getSchneider &#187; Blog Archive &#187; this is just simple and clear thinking</title>
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		<title>Comment on The relationship between mapping and data visualization by Christian Marc Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Marc Schmidt</dc:creator>
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		<description>Thanks for a great comment! I agree with your point when considering mapping as a purely conceptual process, separate from any resulting form. In that sense, visualization could be considered the expression of a process of mapping. Mapping, in other words, does not imply representation. This definition, stemming from the field of computing or linguistics, seems to also be the way that Manovich understands the term.

The problem is that mapping has many definitions, and I am realizing now that I was thinking of it in cartographic terms. To me, the dilemma arises when mapping is intrinsically associated with an expression, which is when it begins to conceptually overlap with visualization. With that in mind, I was approaching the distinction between both terms at the level of the generic/superordinate (visualization) and the specific/subordinate (mapping).

That said, I actually find your argumentation much clearer. It helps to think of the relationship between the two terms as conceptual process vs. expression. (Though I don't quite agree with your comment on agency—I think it plays an important role precisely in the conceptual process, as the metaphoric “bridge” between two worlds. Any expression, of course, as you rightly point out, is equally subjective. But I would argue that agency begins with the cognitive model).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great comment! I agree with your point when considering mapping as a purely conceptual process, separate from any resulting form. In that sense, visualization could be considered the expression of a process of mapping. Mapping, in other words, does not imply representation. This definition, stemming from the field of computing or linguistics, seems to also be the way that Manovich understands the term.</p>
<p>The problem is that mapping has many definitions, and I am realizing now that I was thinking of it in cartographic terms. To me, the dilemma arises when mapping is intrinsically associated with an expression, which is when it begins to conceptually overlap with visualization. With that in mind, I was approaching the distinction between both terms at the level of the generic/superordinate (visualization) and the specific/subordinate (mapping).</p>
<p>That said, I actually find your argumentation much clearer. It helps to think of the relationship between the two terms as conceptual process vs. expression. (Though I don&#8217;t quite agree with your comment on agency—I think it plays an important role precisely in the conceptual process, as the metaphoric “bridge” between two worlds. Any expression, of course, as you rightly point out, is equally subjective. But I would argue that agency begins with the cognitive model).</p>
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